OKTAR BABUNA: Good evening our dear viewers, we are starting another episode of our program with our dear Master. Tonight we have very valuable guests. First I would like to introduce our guests to you. MR. Timothy Hogan. He is the current Grand Commander, that is, the Grand Master of the Knights Templars. In other words, he is the current leader of The Sovereign Order of the Initiatic Temple [the Ordre Soverain du Temple Initiatique], the original Templars with a lineage that goes back to the 12th century. Right beside him we have Mr. Wayne Arner. He is a 33 degree Mason in Colorado, US. He has been a Mason for more than 60 years. He leads many masonic affiliated structures in America and is the spiritual consultant of the Scottish Rite Denver Consistory Council. He is a member of 33 Degree Supreme Council and a Knight Commander of the Temple in the York Rite. Right beside him we have Mr. Trevor Stewart. He is the former provincial grand master from England. He is a prominent name in masonic history and an author on freemasonry. He is a very well-known 33 degree freemason. He is a lecturer at the United Kingdom Grand Lodge and the chief of the Main Research Lodge affiliated to this Grand Lodge. He was a master of many lodges including Quotuor Coronati Lodge. He is the spiritual and philosophic voice of British Grand Mason Lodge in many respects. He lectures worldwide and he is the leader of many private bodies in England. And right beside me we have Mr. Stephen Doan. He is the former grand master of the Grand Lodge of California and a 33 degree Mason. He is current consultant of the Jurisprudence Committee and vice chair of the Institute for Masonic Studies. He holds the Chevalier Degree and the Active DeMolay Legion of Honor Medal, and in 1992, he was elected a deputy member of the International Supreme Council.
He is a member of many bodies like York Rite, the Royal Order of Scotland, Knight Masons, and Societas Rosicruciana. He is the former head of the Societas Rosicruciana. Welcome.. Master please you go on insha'Allah.
ADNAN OKTAR: Well, you are all very much welcomed, you've brought joy. You've brought us honor and grace.
TIMOTHY HOGAN: Thank you so much. The brethren who've been here before all sent their love to you.
ADNAN OKTAR: Likewise to them all, we are also sending them our greetings and our love. Insha'Allah we clearly see from the portents that we will enter this beautiful age, this golden age in which the whole world will become brothers, in which peace will be settled terror and anarchy will go away and weapons will disappear with the freemasons and Templars collaborating with Muslims and Christians [and Jews]. As a matter of fact, even this meeting alone is a portent of this. Unprecedented things are happening, wondrous things are happening. As you know freemasonry is a secret organization, yet now good people, people who feel love, good Christians, good Muslims [and good Jews] are all coming together and thus are taking the first step of this beautiful, pleasant age. Now please, let us take your opinions about this beautiful development first and then take the views of our other guests in turn.
TIMOTHY HOGAN: You know, we strive as freemasons in particular to bring people together in peace and to build the Temple of peace, just as the Prophet Solomon (pbuh) strived for. And now we are living in a time where as a world we're coming together and if we can build that peace together then we can build a beautiful world. Now is the time to do it.
ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.
STEPHEN DOAN: And I find among young people in America that there is a great interest in finding what unites us rather than what divides us, to try to find the commonality that we all share whether Christians, Muslims or Jews. And frankly I see a lot of that in Freemasonry. Freemasonry doesn't require that you belong to any particular religious belief and we try encourage that which unites and not that which divides. My own particular lodge for instance has Christian members, Jewish members and it has Muslim members. And we all unite together to find those things we have in common.
WAYNE ARNER: We are a brotherhood of men and we hold no man to be above another. We all meet on the level. We are here tonight with you on the level.
ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah.
TREVOR STEWART: Indeed. Quotuor Coronati Lodge is a special lodge in the world. It draws its membership very limited members from all over the world from all religious persuasions. So we have Jews, Muslims, we have Zoroastrians. And we even have Scottish people too..
ADNAN OKTAR: Astagfirullah. This really is amazing, it really is sensational. In the End Times, just as we enter the seventh millennium, seeing these wondrous events starting to take place within this seventh millennium, seeing all the aforementioned portents taking place, seeing Allah bringing g
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